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Selecting a truck to pull a Fifth Wheel RV can
seem like a daunting task. If you have searched various
internet pages then you would have already run into
all the various terms and calculations that seem to
make finding a truck nearly impossible.
Read on, we have made the process as simple as possible.
On this page we have simplified all of the terms and
important information in an easy to read format. We
have also included an interactive comparison guide and
a Tow Ratings Guide at the bottom of this page that
is used to illustrate what we are referring to. This
way you can see first hand how specific truck choices
affect towing capabilities. Things like 4x4 versus 2
Wheel drive, engine, tires and axle ratio are all covered
below as well as Gross Axle Weight Rating.
Long Bed vs Short Bed
In almost every case you will want to tow a Fifth Wheel
RV with a long bed truck. Short bed trucks will require
a special hitch for the Fifth Wheel due to the decreased
turning radius over the bed.
You are probably going to want to install a truck box
in the bed of the truck for extra storage. With a long
bed truck this will not be a problem.
To get an idea of Fifth Wheel RV hitch sizes and pricing
we have compiled this list:
Sizes and Prices (opens in a new window)
What is the Best Truck To
Pull a Fifth Wheel RV
We are asked this question many times. For
some people it is a matter of choice as to the brand
of truck they prefer and the many options that the trucks
are fitted with.
From surveys done by us with our readers, the most popular
truck to pull a Fifth Wheel is the Chevrolet 2500 HD
with a Duramax Turbo-Diesel V8 engine. As you will see
below the towing capacity of this truck is able to handle
most Fifth Wheels. The standard cab 2500HD has a towing
capacity of 17,800 lbs and that is single rear wheels
as opposed to the added cost of dual rear Wheels.
What is the Best Trailer Brake
Controller for a Fifth Wheel RV
image above to see all Tekonsha controllers with wiring
harnesses for various truck models.
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When you are pulling upwards of 10,000 lbs, you want
to make sure you can stop quickly and effectively.
The Tekonsha P3 trailer brake controller uses a G-Sensor
accelerometer, instead of the traditional pendulum
mechanism. This brake controller is one of the best
available and works reliably on downhills and inclines,
unlike the current pendulum brake controllers. This
brake controller will stop the trailer with almost
no shuddering and the troubleshooting feature allows
you to view diagnostics which is extremely helpful.
The Tekonsha also shows an alert should the trailer
brakes come disconnected for some reason. Tekonsha
provides a wiring harness for almost any model of
truck. This makes installation easy compared to trying
to wire in other makes of brake controllers.Tekonsha
has been a best seller for a while now and with good
What is Gross Axle Weight
Rating (GAWR) and do we care?
The Gross Axle Weight Rating is the maximum weight
the axle can carry. Here is where it gets confusing.
This means all of the weight the axle can carry, including
the weight of the axle itself and the truck bed. For
us to know how much we can load onto the truck, like
the weight of the front of the Fifth Wheel, we ignore
this rating as we don't know how much the axle and
truck bed weigh.
The way we calculate how much weight the truck can
be loaded with is to check the Maximum Payload capacity
for that truck. If we cannot find that then we can
calculate it like this:
How to Calculate Truck Payload
selecting a truck we need to know the Hitch Weight
or Pin Weight of the Fifth Wheel we will be pulling.
That weight is normally always in the specifications
for the Fifth Wheel. The Fifth Wheel Pin Weight is
the weight of the front of the Fifth Wheel that will
be pushing down on the axle of the truck.
the Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR) and subtract
the Curb Weight of the truck. The Curb Weight is the
weight of the truck without cargo or passengers. Both
of these weights should always be in the specifications
for the truck.
For example, if we have a GVWR of 9900 lbs and a curb
weight of 6469 lbs then: 9900 minus 6469 will give
us a max payload of 3431 lbs.
Next we have to take into consideration the weight
of passengers in the truck and any other cargo loaded
into the truck and deduct that weight from the max
When we see these huge Fifth Wheels, one tends to
think that the front end weight or hitch weight of
the Fifth Wheel must be huge. But most Fifth Wheels
hitch weights average around 2,000 lbs or less. The
40 foot Big Horn weighs an impressive 16,000 lbs but
the hitch weight is only 2,040 lbs.
Above we calculated how much we can load onto the
truck, which includes one of our most important weights.
The weight of the front of the Fifth Wheel. This is
the weight that will be pushing down on the rear axle
when the Fifth Wheel is hitched to the truck.
How Truck Tires can Increase
tires have various load rating specifications.
If the standard tires on the truck are load rated
for 3,000 lbs and you replace those tires with a tire
rated for 3,400 lbs, then you have just increased
the payload capacity of the truck by 800 lbs.
How Much Weight Can The Truck
Next we need to know how much the truck can pull behind
it and this weight will be the maximum weight of our
Fifth Wheel RV or we will exceed the towing capacity
of the truck. If we exceed the towing capacity of
the truck we will put excess strain on the engine,
the transmission and the brakes. The truck will not
perform well pulling the Fifth Wheel and steep inclines
could overheat the engine. Driving an overloaded truck
is stressful and if an accident were to occur, insurance
could be affected by the fact the truck was overloaded.
If we look at a Fifth Wheel RV we see in the specifications
that there is a Dry Weight, a Gross Weight and a Cargo
So for example a 40 foot Big Horn 3755 FL has a Dry
Weight of 13,910 lbs and a Gross Weight of 16,000
So we need a truck with a maximum tow capacity of
16,000 lbs and a 16,000 lb hitch right? Not so. We
need to factor in added weight from the fresh water
tank and cargo we have stored in the Fifth Wheel.
Let's look at the 3755FL Big Horn again. It can carry
73 Gallons fresh water, 90 gallons grey water &
45 gallons black water. That is an extra 1,734 lbs
just in water.
It is far better to have an over rated truck than
one that's max. towing capacity is very close to the
gross weight of the Fifth Wheel RV. If this is the
case then the truck will almost always be over loaded.
We also want to make sure that the hitch for the Fifth
Wheel is rated more than the Gross Weight of the Fifth
Wheel. This would be our safety zone.
When you look at truck specifications you will see
Conventional Trailering and Fifth Wheel Trailering.
Conventional Trailering is tow capacity with a ball
hitch on the rear of the truck. We want to look at
Fifth Wheel Trailering for our weights.
Bringing it all Together
- Gross Combined Weight Rating (GCWR)
When the Fifth Wheel is hitched to the truck and the
Fifth Wheel is loaded for travel, along with the truck
with its driver and passengers and fuel, the weight
of the loaded truck and the loaded Fifth Wheel should
not exceed the Gross Combined Weight Rating shown
in the specifications for the truck.
Factors that affect Towing
Factors that affect towing are mainly 2 wheel drive
trucks can pull more than 4x4 trucks, axle ratios
and diesel engines can pull larger capacities than
gas trucks. Diesel trucks also tend to get better
mileage than gas trucks when pulling an RV.
If you need to find Tow Ratings for a vehicle, here
is a comprehensive Tow Guide. The Tow Ratings start
on page 18. 2014
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